adult gap year

September 2, 2023

So Much To See, So Much To Learn

Gap Years Take Off, And Not Just For Pre-College


Journalist Wendy Greenberg writes an in-depth and thoughtful article on the gap year option (for young and old alike) in this September 2023 issue of Princeton Magazine.


"Within about 10 minutes of chatting with Holly Bull and Kate Warren, you begin to think about all the experiences you want to have, all the places you want to go, and how you can realize what you always thought was beyond your time constraints and logistical ability. You make a note that when ready, you will call Holly and Kate."

November 17, 2021

"You're a different person when you travel..."


This October 7, 2021 Washington Post article, You're a different person when you travel. Here's why, and how to transform yourself at home, touches on the benefits of travel and includes the gap option for adults as well as students. 


Holly Bull, Center for Interim Programs' President and Gap Year Counselor is quoted as saying:


It’s a chance for people to discover parts of themselves sidelined by career and family life, said Holly Bull, president of the Center for Interim Programs in Princeton, N.J., an opportunity to hop off “this track that people sort of see laid out ahead of them.” The counseling business she leads connects those would-be travelers with a breadth of possibilities, such as baboon research and language immersion. Bull saw a surge of interest in adult gap-year travel during the first year of the pandemic. 

Gap time is for anyone and the benefits are similar no matter one's age.

December 20, 2020

Three Separate Gaps Since 2002: Trevor Kluckman's Journey

Interim Programs has been integral in my working through three separate stuck points over the course of my adult life. 

The first came about when I was 20 years old. I had dropped out of my second college in as many years, and struggled to feel my path forward after growing up an intelligent student in a small town. My mother heard about Interim Programs in a newspaper article, and we went by car to Princeton and sat down one on one with Holly. I remember questions about what would happen if I could wave a magic wand…I wanted to feel self-confidence. On the other side of this conversation I had 2, separate 3-month-long plans laid out: first, to go to Australia. Second, to go to Europe. I began working in a warehouse and saving for my journey. An unexpectedly long layover in Singapore produced a memory when I’d misread my (paper!) ticket as having a connection 12 hours sooner than my actual flight. I did as much as you could do in 8 hours in Singapore. Landing in Cairns, Australia, I began a 3-month stint that included volunteer conservation work. I helped install an irrigation system and experienced 47 degrees Celsius (HOT) for the first time in my life. I also worked on farms in exchange for housing and food, including a stop at a guy’s place in the bush who rehabilitated local kangaroos that had been hit by cars. I learned to drive a tractor on a coffee plantation. I even helped install a pool at the home of a couple who were nudists. All the while eating mangoes every chance I got. I re-centered and began submitting applications to colleges in the US. I stopped home for the holidays and to audition for theatre programs at the schools I was applying to, and then I was off to France. My time there included a stint assisting an American artist in Paris. She had a beautiful studio and half a century’s residence in the city. My Eurail pass took me to the most beautiful bike ride in the Swiss Alps, the Anne Frank Museum in Amsterdam, whistle stops through Venice, Brussels, Berlin, and more. I spent 10 days at a Buddhist meditation center, and a few weeks in Scotland visiting family. I was introduced to budget airline travel, toilets of different stripes, and friendly hosts. I remember quiet exhilaration when I ordered a pastry in German at a train station. Apart from getting taken by a guy in a shell game on the street in Nice, I got the hang of traveling through Europe by myself and returned to the US and a new college refreshed, motivated, and refocused. 

 The next Interim chapter for me came after I graduated in 2006. The death of a close friend and the end of a relationship had devastated me. Thankfully, Interim had just the place for me to go. I quit my job as a NYC bartender and headed to Project Vote Smart in Montana. I did non-partisan political information gathering from an office uniquely situated on a ranch in the Rockies. It was absolutely beautiful. Big Sky lives up to the slogan. What a place. I met, bunked, and worked with a great group of fellow 20-somethings, as well as a cadre of retirees visiting from across this great land. We all worked Monday-Friday gathering voting records, fundraising details, and more about elected officials and candidates to be dispensed to anybody who wanted ‘em. On the weekends I visited stunning Glacier National Park, got real good at foosball, and learned a little bit of Thai from a new friend who would go on to host me in Bangkok a year and a half later. 

 Third Interim go-around was in summer 2018. I’d drifted from my pursuits in show business, and had some time free before my well-paid yet unfulfilling job working banquets was to pick up for the season. I was in the market for something that was altogether different from anywhere I’d been before. My lack of Spanish had kept Latin America perpetually out of consideration up to that point in my life. Holly told me about a unique place in Guatemala where a former Peace Corps volunteer had undertaken to build a school from entirely recycled materials. This was as necessary as much as it was do-gooder: the community in Comalapa had no waste management system or facilities. I was privileged to encounter a beautiful campus glittering with the sunlight that cast through green, blue, and brown colored glass bottles recycled to let natural light stream through walls I got to help make with mud, hay, and manure (“cob”). My Spanish improved a little everyday I worked alongside my fellows, and as I began taking 1-hour lessons in town after work. The spectacular highlight of the 10 days I spent in Guatemala was my weekend trip to Antigua (“Old Guatemala”). I hiked through hot sun and freezing hail in a single day of climbing up the dormant volcano, Acatenango. Camping that night 1,000 feet shy of the 13,000+ foot summit, my mind was blown when Fuego – the adjacent volcano – erupted and spewed lava down its front and sides right in front of me. I have been fortunate to continue my Spanish lessons with Angélica, my teacher, via Facebook video to this day. Presently, I intend to use those lessons as a model to do my own tutoring in French via an app. My time in Guatemala also has given me the confidence to take on the challenge of moving to Italy, where my current course-heading is set.

February 9, 2020

“The Benefits of Taking a Gap Year at Any Age”


In this article that came out in the Princeton Packet as well as centraljersey.com, Pam Hersh interviews Center for Interim Programs gap year counselors, Holly Bull and Kate Warren, about the benefits of taking gap time. Whether as student or older adult, the idea is invariably compelling for people of all ages.

November 12, 2019

Interim alumna Bathsheba Demuth comments on her 1999 gap year

Bathsheba Demuth engaged in one of the most unusual and interesting experiences Interim had to offer during her gap year in 1999. At 18, she headed off to the town of Old Crow in the Yukon to help train sled dogs, some to compete in the Yukon Quest, a 1,000 mile international sled dog race across Alaska and Canada. Her writing about this experience was fascinating as she noted the combination of old and new within the Gwich'in community where she lived: seeing people wearing Calvin Klein jeans and moccasins, or eating caribou meat with Tater Tots. She went on to attend Brown University and is currently an Assistant Professor of History and Environment & Society at Brown with a new book just out called Floating Coast: An Environmental History of the Bering Strait. She is working on another book drawn from her experience in the Yukon.

Of her gap year she noted, "I can honestly say my gap year experience set the course for the rest of my adult life - from what I studied in college to my choices in graduate school to what I research and write about now, as faculty. I wouldn't be the same person now without it!"

August 16, 2019

Next Avenue, Forbes' and MarketWatch article "A Guide to Taking a Gap Year or Gap Time in Midlife"

Mark Schmitt, in the photo above, is a Center for Interim Programs adult "gapper" along with Janet Lipsi who is also featured in this compelling "Next Avenue" article, A Guide to Taking a Gap Year or Gap Time in Midlife by Lisa Fields. Forbes posted this article the same day and MarketWatch two weeks later with the title Why you might want to take a gap year before you retire.

Mark took an unpaid leave of absence to travel in 2018 and in over 10 months completed 14 adventures. Janet Lipsi wanted to go where she was needed and volunteered at a children’s center in South Africa for two months before doing some travelling.

Fields tells her readers that your 50s or 60s may be ideal for taking time off if you have children who have grown or you are in a comfortable place professionally and have the financial flexibility for a break. She quotes Holly Bull, President of the Center for Interim Programs (who uses the term "Gap Time" instead of "Gap Year"), as saying "The value derived from this exploring, short or long, is invariably high: Rest, a sense of renewed excitement about life, being away from home and the familiar, meeting new people, being a traveler rather than tourist, engaging in something substantive with a sense of purpose."

It is always worth it for anyone of any age to do our free hour and a half brainstorming session to learn more about the many possible options and experiences to match specific interests and time frames.

March 9, 2019

A Gap Year Supports The Making of a "Modern Elder"

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Ever since the Center for Interim Programs (Interim) opened its gap year counseling doors in 1980, we have worked not only with students but also older adults.

Chip Conley's latest book, "Wisdom @ Work: The Making of a Modern Elder" highlights the importance of continuing to recreate one's life, or, as he puts it in his Chapter 8 title, "Rewire, Don't Retire".  He suggests that we adults "Reconsider a Gap Year" and quotes Holly Bull, President of Interim, as follows, "...we see an increasing number of adults who aren't completely retired. They are looking for a new direction and asking themselves what they want to do for the rest of their lives."

Rewiring can take many directions and here are experiences that some of Interim's "Modern Elder" Gappers have taken:

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